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Typical characteristics of antiBNP’ers
It has been a bit quiet the last few days. It seems Gri££in has gone away for a while, the usual BNP supporters have diminished and all is good in the world Not much going on in BNP-land at all other than their own internal civil war.
But just for fun, the Official BNP Facebook Group has a great thread from a short while ago. I’m NOT saying this is the official view of the BNP, its just one thread. I have removed names of those posting, as they are entitled to their views, free speech, the stuff democracy is made of (the stuff that destroyed them at the elections), did not all agree with the thread, but it does show the mindset of a certain calibre of BNP activist, such as those that think the anti BNP are just unwashed far left.
ALL of britain, left and right (and even insider)s stood up against the BNP in the recent election.
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Typical characteristics of antiBNP’ers
Keith Fairhurst The characteristics are:
1) Low cognitive complexity.
I find most members of the far left are extremely quick to slap degrading labels from a limited list on anyone who disagrees with them. “Racist” tends to be a slur thrown at anyone with concerns on immigration. “Nazi” is a charming term used for anybody past the middle of the right and their forums label any dissenters as
“trolls”.Such tags seem to help them feel secure. By slapping hysterical epithets on anyone who challenges their views, the far left avoid debate and keep their own feeling of security intact.
2) Strong pro-censorship views
Campaigns for censorship or removal of opposition groups is a regular occurrence. Many left extremists will gladly advocate their “no platform” policy. They argue that some views are “too extreme” to deserve free speech. The irony that they are the ones acting as both judge and executioner seems lost on them.
3) Avoidance of debate
From webmasters to bloggers to activist leaders. There seems no room for discussion however sensible and neutral it may seem. When challenged to a debate, the left will resort to one of the two aforementioned tactics. Explanation or sensible challenge to their policies is unwelcome. This should be evident from the censored comments featured in my blog.
4) Lack of genuine political activity
You will note that most of the activist groups are only activists, they rarely engage in electoral politics or attempt to make a lasting change. I liken this to someone who frequently criticises the views of another in a debate, but never offers views of his or her own. The groups on the far left that are registered as a party receive very few votes.
5) Refusal to “play fair” and a tendency to violence
This trait is, of course, prevalent in all politics but it is most obvious in this sector. The left will engage in intimidation and subsequent physical intervention if the intimidation fails. For one example, look at the “Oxford Union debate” saga. After repeated lobbying failed, the left responded to Oxford Union’s democratic decision to invite two controversial speakers by physically forcing their way into the Union and heckling and blocking invited students who wanted to get in.
6) Hysteria and mass propaganda
The groups featured in this site will resort to any twisting of reality and mass propaganda that they believe furthers their cause. A popular tactic is to find a particularly unpleasant or worrying story (or exaggerate one) and find any way possible to connect it to the group they wish to damage.
For example, the site ‘Lancaster UAF’ retold a story of a woman in France committing suicide by immolation. The site then reprinted a few foolish comments from Nazi site “Stormfront” and presented the comments as being from BNP supporters. The only justification or evidence for this was the lie: “Stormfront is popular with BNP supporters”. The rest of the article was hysterical vituperation of the BNP, designed to make the reader forget how false the connection between the two events was.
Should I find these characteristics to change or further traits to emerge, I will change this page. For now, don’t take my word for it. Examine the evidence and decide for yourselves
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John XXXX Fear of washing, anti-perspirants, work, haircuts, shaving
01 March 2009 at 10:25 • Report
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Sarah XXXX And low physical attractiveness, I find!
02 March 2009 at 22:32 • Report
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Mark XXXX gotta agree with the haircuts. scruffy bastards
02 March 2009 at 22:50 • Report
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Sophie XXXX Hi Keith, I fail to see how your list we help the BNP party recruit more members.03 March 2009 at 09:33 • Report
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Mark XXX i dont think this group is here to recruit more members. thinking people would change their political stance and join a party because of a facebook group is naive. The group exists so people who do support the BNP can discuss the issues they are concerned with and can express their opinions without being shot down. Now the fact that we are always getting called “racist” and “nazis” by liberal left wing student looking types and the fact they basically hate our gutts, for me justifies a thread discussing the cretins. just my opinion of course
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Griffins Explains That the BNP is Too Bad to Be True
Griffins Explains That the BNP is Too Bad to Be True
Griffins is still trying to digest the election failure and the news coming his way, from criminal assaults by members (‘brave’ Bob Bailey) to huge demands for his resignation, the party splitting, and members leaving etc shows that there are huge amounts of bad publicity for him to counter. A while ago Gri££in set up a media rebuttal department for the BNP. How effective was this? Its was so good, it became a joke. Instead of countering story with facts, it ended up with threats, making the party look worse. Remember Paul Golding being caught out lying?
The response by the Media Rebuttal Unit, or Operation Fightback, as they often called it responded by threats, asking for many people to undertake a course of action against British businesses,so that
“if enough people do this, then they will be cowed”
a simple but subtle statement, but understand the definition of to cowed
(kou)
tr.v. cowed, cow•ing, cows
To frighten with threats or a show of force. See Synonyms at intimidate.
Intimidation (also called cowing) is intentional behavior “which would cause a person of ordinary sensibilities” fear of injury or harm. It’s not necessary to prove that the behavior was so violent as to cause terror or that the victim was actually frightened.
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Media rebuttal – BNP Style
Now without the web skill of Simon Bennet, and his cyber activism. Griffins new media rebuttal is just a simple statement…
“If you hear anything that sounds too bad to be true about the people …(and) this party, then understand that it probably isn’t true.”
Yes, the bad news about Griffin and the BNP is soooo bad it just did not happen- it was too bad to be true.
It appears BNP threats and intimidation has diminished without Bennet, but it now carries more threats to those who remain interested in the BNP …
“Those who… whisper poison against colleagues but who publicly profess loyalty or ‘concern for the party’, should be called to account at every turn”.
We all know what being called to account by the BNP involves. Griffin seems to say, don’t dare question us. And for any future news, when more crap hits the BNP fan
“You’ll hear it in the disgusting accusations of fraud, theft and all sorts of horror stories that are already being hawked around by various Searchlight and direct state assets who have burrowed into the party over the years.”
So, next time there is another story about the BNP, just remember; it wont be true, because its likely to show how bad the BNP are, be it fraud, theft and all sorts of horror stories.
And don’t forget, don’t ever question Gri££in; you will be called to account, at every turn.
Anyway, here is Griffins letter in full.
Britain Has Entered a New Political Era -
Post Election Analysis by Chairman Nick GriffinChairman Nick Griffin
Dear Fellow Patriot,So the election dust has now settled, and from our point of view there are four key outcomes:
First, the resulting hung Parliament and political instability will rapidly add to Gordon Brown’s economic disaster. The Bank of England prediction that whoever won this election will end up being “out of power for a generation” is now going to apply to two of the three old parties. That’s bad news for Britain, but good news for us.
Second, although many people were initially disappointed that the enormously sympathetic response (yes, don’t worry; it wasn’t just you, it had me going too!) we received from the public during the campaign did not translate into huge votes, the fact remains that this was the best general election result in the history of British nationalism. The headline figures tell us what we need to know:
* Total votes cast 563,743. This compares with 192,746 votes secured by the BNP in 117 seats in 2005. The nearest comparison historically is with 1979, when the National Front fought the now easily broken record of 303 seats, from which it garnered a feeble 191,719 votes
* There were a record number of deposits saved. This would undoubtedly have been even higher were it not for us missing out on crossing this important threshold in a number of seats by the votes that were undoubtedly lost in each constituency thanks to the confusion and concern caused by the unforgiveable sabotage of our website.
* The 6,620 votes I secured in Barking is the highest number ever cast for a BNP (or in fact for any British nationalist party) candidate in a general election.
* BNP candidates beat UKIP in the majority of seats where we went head-to-head – despite their party having vastly more money and receiving relentless media puffs. And we positively slaughtered the Greens.
Third, our frankly shocking wipe-out from Barking & Dagenham council is, when we look at the facts, not some terrible indictment of our councillors or leadership, but simply the result of a paradigm shift in the quality of Labour’s election-winning machine.
Four years ago, the British National Party, Respect and the Christian People’s Alliance between us dealt a series of shattering blows to Labour, particularly in Barking & Dagenham, Stoke, Tower Hamlets and Newham.
Rather than losing heart and wasting time blaming each other, Labour took this as a wakeup call and set about improving their election machine.
Opposition plants, sacked and bitter incompetents and ambitious knaves may use such moments to try to advance their own personal agendas, but looking for better ways to do things next time is what mature parties with real ambitions do.
Last year I wrote that Labour’s use against us of state-of-the-art US techniques imported by Obama’s Blue State Digital team was only a trial run, and that the real target in the long term was the Tory party.
Some people may not have believed me then, but look at what Labour just achieved by rolling out BSD’s potent mix of targeted voter contact, sophisticated data basing and the ruthless use of deceit and lies to sway vulnerable voters.
It didn’t just knock us out in Barking & Dagenham and take 10 of Respect’s 11 seats in Tower Hamlets, but it also eliminated all opposition on Newham council, wiping out Respect and turning a confident Christian People’s Alliance challenge into the loss of all three of their existing seats.
Despite Blair, despite Brown, the strong local challenges of three radical alternative parties have been crushed, leaving the whole of East London, from the edge of the City right out to the horsey fields of Essex, a Labour one party state.
The same tactics were also rolled out against the Tories and Lib Dems in other key areas, with the result that Labour, despite losing heavily in the general election, walked back into control of no fewer than 14 major councils up and down the country.
I am not saying that our inability to stand up to the Labour steamroller is not in part our own fault – of course it is. Our elections department did rest on its four- or five- year-old laurels, despite our failure to win a by-election for more than two years.
Personally I should have acted quicker to reinvigorate that side of the party – putting Clive Jefferson in charge with the brief to bring his innovative approach to wooing and securing the postal vote (the advance he pioneered that undoubtedly won us our two northern Euro seats last year) was something I should have done earlier.
But there’s no use crying over spilt milk or beating ourselves up over our failure to stand up to Labour’s brilliantly effective new techniques.
Rather, we must learn from the scientifically applied beating we’ve just received, and equip ourselves to hand out the same to our opponents in future.
I’m looking forward to that, and I know that it can and will be done.
The fourth and final point is that we have just seen the last first-past-the-post major election contest in British history.
Apart from local council elections, which may continue to be held on the old basis for some time yet, first-past-the-post is finished; Britain has entered a new political era.
Next year we have the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliamentary elections – proportional representation (PR) contests in which we can win (we only missed out winning last time around in Wales by a few thousand votes, and our Welsh results last week all showed further clear improvements).
In two years’ time we have another round of Greater London Assembly elections – a PR contest in which we have already shown we can win.
Just two years after that we’ll be back contesting the European elections, defending our two seats and aiming to win more.
And probably even before then, we’ll be facing another general election. That too will almost certainly be fought with a PR system.
If a pure one were to be adopted, last week’s showing would give us twelve MPs, which would compare well with UKIP’s twenty and the Greens’ six.
In fact, the Powers-That-Be will probably plump for a less fair system, but even the worst one possible is likely to lower the threshold for victory from the present mountain of about 36 percent down to a relative molehill of 15 percent. I know which target I’d rather have to reach.
Even more worrying for Labour and their hate-filled far-left mercenaries, the voter targeting they have now mastered in local elections is many times harder to roll out in the much larger constituencies that have to be used to make PR work.
We can, and will, learn ways to use techniques such as mass telephone contacts to boost and then mobilise our core vote in those future contests, but they are far harder to apply in the negative way we’ve just seen rough us up so effectively at local level.
With all major elections from now on therefore inevitably scheduled to involve PR, our opponents have just one year in which to break the British National Party.
Make no mistake, the forces of political hell are about to be unleashed on us. ‘Operation Total Destruction of the BNP’ is being rolled out right now.
You can see it in the fake emails supposedly from me and our London organiser, the brave Bob Bailey, in which we attack each other. Disastrous news – if it were only true, but fortunately it’s not. And it would take much more than bogus emails to break the trust that people like Bob and I have in each other.
You’ll hear it in the disgusting accusations of fraud, theft and all sorts of horror stories that are already being hawked around by various Searchlight and direct state assets who have burrowed into the party over the years.
Their previous subtle negativity, ‘misjudgements’ and minor acts of ‘accidental’ disruption are now being replaced by outright lies and sabotage in a last desperate throw of the dice to break our party before it’s too late.
Again, if their tales were true, it would be a disgrace, but fortunately they are not.
Old hands have seen it before, of course, back in 1979. And that’s the real good news, because enough of us know what we will now have to face together to be able to guide our party through this treacherous passage of stormy and rocky waters.
The would-be wreckers, waving their fake lighthouse lanterns from various deadly cliffs, will get short shrift from us.
Those who offer easy routes to victory, or who whisper poison against colleagues but who publicly profess loyalty or ‘concern for the party’, should be called to account at every turn.
If you hear anything that sounds too bad to be true about the people who have transformed this party thus far, and who united will do even more good, then understand that it probably isn’t true.
New readers might at this point be thinking, “what’s going on here, surely this isn’t what happens in normal political parties?”
Well, friends new and old alike, that’s quite right. Because the BNP is NOT a “normal political party.”
In fact, in reality, we are much more than a political party, and have no desire to be like the others. For this is not a “party”, so much as a movement – nay, the movement – of national salvation.
Without a complete change of course our entire nation and civilisation are heading for the rocks and for irrevocable disaster.
The old parties, the internationalist masters of the media, and the super rich and the banksters they all ultimately serve, are all happy with that deadly course. After all, they charted it.
So why should anyone who understands that be surprised to learn that these people – with all their money, all their greed, all their ruthlessness and all their fear of justice and the anger of a people betrayed – will use a combination of apparently ‘internal’ squabbles, wicked and baseless accusations against the innocent, and no doubt a wave of legal attacks from without, to try to drive this party to destruction over the months ahead.
They can try; they are trying – but with your loyalty and true British team spirit and dogged determination, they will fail. Our day will come – because, together, we will make it come.
Yours sincerely,Nick Griffin, MEP
Leader, British National Party
BNP Open Civil War – Griffin’s Rant.
BNP Open Civil War – Griffin’s Rant.
Here is Griffins New message- it details the current civil war within the BNP. There are two messages, the first one is trying to put a spin on the election results. the second (this one) appears to be in response to accusations captured and posted on line by the amazing 1million United team and Vote-No.
Of interest are is this pathetic way of covering over any bad news. No longer able to defend the undefendable he just says this in his first letter (to be published later);
“if you hear anything that sounds too bad to be true about the people who have transformed this party thus far, and who united will do even more good, then understand that it probably isn’t true.”
Yes, Bob Bailey kicking the shit out of some Asian lads face wasn’t probably true, hey? because it was that awful.
pathetic realy.
He also states this…”"Mr Butler knows the party’s accounts are always published in full and are subjected to the most rigorous scrutiny by forces intensely hostile to the BNP,” Really ? that’s why the BNP have been fined so many times.
but anyway, digest the letter and feel free to comment.
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An Update from BNP Leader Nick Griffin
BNP Leader Mr Griffin has responded to an email sent out to BNP supporters purportedly by the party’s former National Elections Officer, Eddy Butler, which contained a number of explicit and implicit attacks on the current leadership team.
“I have not yet had an opportunity to speak to Mr Butler over the email, and as of yet don’t know if it is another fake email like the one rapidly rebutted by Bob Bailey,” Mr Griffin said.
“I find it somewhat difficult to believe that it could be real, as the email says that the election has been a setback ‘after five years work’ and that the party must ‘move out of stagnant waters’.
“First, our General Election results – though they did not reflect the enormous ’soft’ public sympathy we all encountered on the doorsteps – were significantly better than five years ago. Second, Mr Butler was responsible for all our election campaigns for nearly a decade, including all the planning for the most recent one, so I cannot imagine he is actually criticising his own performance or seeking to blame others, since any ’stagnation’ that has occurred in our campaigning abilities would primarily be his responsibility,” Mr Griffin said.
“The email also calls for financial transparency. Once again, I cannot see how this email can be from Mr Butler and in good faith because he has sat on the BNP’s advisory council for nearly ten years and has never once mentioned this as an issue before. As National Organiser he had the position from which to raise any genuine concerns, but has never done so.
“Mr Butler knows the party’s accounts are always published in full and are subjected to the most rigorous scrutiny by forces intensely hostile to the BNP,” continued Mr. Griffin.
“The Advisory Council on which Mr. Butler sat until very recently is responsible for choosing and appointing the independent chartered accountant who scrutinises and audits every single penny of income and expenditure. Neither Mr. Butler nor his close friend Mark Collett, nor any other member of the A.C., have ever questioned our employment of Frank Hogarth of Messrs Silver & Co as our professional independent auditor.
“Nor have Messrs Butler or Collett made the slightest attempt to exercise their right as members of the Advisory Council to inspect the party’s central and regional accounts and to question any National Treasurer about any aspect of the party’s finances at any of the dozens of Advisory Council and senior management meetings they have attended over their years in post.
“Additionally, Mr. Butler is also well aware that our independently audited accounts are every years subjected to intense and detailed scrutiny by the Electoral Commission – a body which has a clearly established record of bias against and hostility to our party. The Electoral Commission has a brief to ensure full transparency in the accounts of all political parties, and holds us to the highest standards of accountability.
“Mr Butler, who was until recently a European staff member employee, also knows that Andrew Brons and I are not permitted to so much as touch a cent of our European staff salary allowance money. This is paid direct from the European Parliament to our Paying Agent, another chartered accountant, who is approved by them and bound not only by law but also by his professional code of conduct to handle all such funds with the utmost probity. Mr. Butler would be extremely well aware of this reality, since he has been paid a substantial salary for his work for us as MPs every month since August last year.
“Our office expenses money is transferred directly to our constituency office managers into accounts run by two signatories. A full account of this income and the expenditure of this money in the North West region has been kept from Day 1 by Tina Wingfield and has been available on my website for months.
“However, the thing that really makes me the most sceptical as to whether Mr Butler has written this email and whether it is written in good faith is its shockingly shallow discussion about party leadership.
“I don’t believe for a second that Mr Butler would really think that having a ‘pretty face’ as a new leader would stop a single attack against the BNP by the controlled mass media.
“Mr Butler has been in nationalist politics for decades and knows very well that it is the ideas for which the party stands which cause them to attack us. The personality or style of the leader, election candidates and others make not one jot of difference to those professional liars,” Mr Griffin said.
“The suggestion that it would, might fool a handful of the most naive new members – as it is clearly someone’s intention – but no seasoned nationalist could really believe such naive and politically juvenile nonsense for one moment.
“That said, it is clear that someone is out to cause trouble, and appears to have done so using an email list acquired during his or her time working for us. That, of course, is a breach of our Constitution as well as of our members’ rights under the Data Protection Act. Formal solicitor’s letters have today been sent to three former members of staff reminding them of their obligations in this regard and warning that any flouting of the law will be met with injunctions and claims for damages.”
In conclusion, Mr. Griffin has this message for all our members and supporters: “Of course the local council results were deeply disappointing, but the answer has to be to learn from how Labour organised to maximise their vote and depress not only ours but also those of Respect and the Christians. We are already well into that process, and I’m looking forward to our rolling out the Education & Training programme that will turn our new knowledge and techniques into productive action for the future.
“Most important of all, more than 8,000 enquiries have already been passed from our Belfast admin centre to our Regional Organisers. That’s a huge harvest of potential new members and activists just waiting to be visited and signed up. Speed is of the essence here, so this is no time for ‘what ifs?’ and navel gazing. Together, we’ve got work to do!”
Yours sincerely,
Nick Griffin
Nick Griffin, MEP
Leader, British National Party
